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  1. What is the vn-singles mailing list?
  2. How do I subscribe?
  3. How do I unsubscribe?
  4. Who is responsible for this mess?
  5. What is it like, the mailing list?
  6. Do you have any advice for a new member?
  7. Is there a home page for vn-singles?
  8. Can you add a link to my home page?
  9. Can I add a link from my home page to your home page?
  10. Is there a VN-Singles chat-line?
  11. Is there a digest format for the mailing list?
  12. Is there a archives for old mails from the mailing-list?
  13. Can I make a suggestion?
  14. Are most of the postings in English or Vietnamese?
  15. How can I filter email from vn-singles?
  16. Who's subscribed to vn-singles mailing list?
  17. What are other useful FAQs?
  18. What is the current size limit for message sent to vn-singles mailing list?
  19. Does anyone have the lyrics for xyz song?
  20. Do you have a place for "personal ads"?
  21. Where is the result of the vn-singles survey?
  22. 25 Snappy Comebacks to the age old question "Why aren't you married yet?"
  23. I just receive a Virus warning. Should I forward it to vn-singles?
  24. I just receive an email urging me to forward it to all my friend. Should I forward it to vn-singles?
  25. Can I subscribe VN-Single directly from news server instead for thru email?

What is the vn-singles mailing list?

The list is for the VNese singles, professionals and students. (There are also some married people in it.) The focus is on issues relating to the VNese singles life. It is small and well focused on these kind of topics. It is very friendly and enjoyable... Flames, political or religious discussions are discouraged. The list admin will send out warning to author of posting that are deemed inappropriate, offensive and/or inflammatory. In general, three-warning-and-you-are-out applies. Occasionally, the list admin will intervene in a "discussion thread" and will issue "please take this discussion to private email". Those who refuse to comply to the request will be removed from the list immediately.

The mailing list works as followed:

How do I subscribe?

To get your name ON the vn-singles mailing list

  1. send an email request to: majordomo@saigon.com.
  2. in the body of your message type:
    subscribe vn-singles your-email-address
    

    as an example:

    To: majordomo@saigon.com
    Subject: subscribe
    
    subscribe vn-singles lily@flower.com
    

How do I unsubscribe?

To get your name OFF the vn-singles mailing list

  1. send an email request to: majordomo@saigon.com.
  2. in the body of your message type:
    unsubscribe vn-singles your-email-address
    

    as an example:

    To: majordomo@saigon.com
    Subject: subscribe
    
    unsubscribe vn-singles lily@flower.com
    

What is it like, the mailing list?

The best way to find out about the mailing list is to just give it a try. If you find it uninterested, you can always unsubscribe (it is quick and painless). You might want to start your tryout period on Wednesday or Thursday because most posting tends to cluster around Friday, Monday and the weekend.

The main staple is Vietnamese love poems. Some are quite good. Sandwiched between the love poems are "joke of the day", "my sport team is better than yours", "my life sucks" postings. There are some gossips, mostly on Vietnamese entertainers; some Vietnamese cultural/social events announcements. Occasionally, there are some brave souls who declare they need a girlfriend, boyfriend, or any kind of friend ;-). I believe someone once tried to get the list to pitch in to do his homework. Every two or three weeks, there will be an earnest discussion on topics related to singles life. Some recent topics:

Do you have any advice for a new member?

This is an open forum where everyone can post anything of interest, may it be a burning question/issue that you need some opinion/answer on, or a joke to laugh at or to share. There is no guideline to the posted topic or to the discussion thread, except some good net-etiquette and proper manner and respect towards the forum members and the freedom of expression. If there is something that you don't like reading then just delete rather than burden yourself with extra level of stress or anger. Once you've been around, you will soon learn that there might be some disconnect between the net personality conveyed thru the posts and the real life identity. So beware and use your good common sense to recognize things and to believe or not to believe. When things get to be a bit personal, take the matter offline and with the involved members privately, rather than burden everyone. The proper attitude to deal with things on the net is to be able to laugh at everything, including yourself. And who knows...you may be surprised to find someone here interesting enough and compelling enough that you'd want to share a cup of coffee with one day. So... Happy netting ... Thus spoke the sage Mickey Nguyen.

Hung Le said:

  1. Temper your expectation. If you are looking for your lifelong mate, the mailing list is a good place to start (gather of like-minded folks) but it is no match making service (and there is no money-back guarantee ;-)).
  2. Like most social gathering, there is an in-crowd and there are the outsiders. Don't get discourage if it seems as if all the postings are "inside jokes" or "personal mail" from one group to another. That too shall passed.
  3. If you are new to the Internet and mailing list, be aware that your posting is viewed by hundreds of other people all around the world. So ... don't make a fool of yourself.
  4. Right after joining a list, send a short message to the list saying hello and introducing yourself. You will be pleasantly surprise.
  5. And lastly, this is supposed to be FUN so don't get too upset about anything said on the mailing-list. Be cool.
    See also: The Netiquette.

Who is responsible for this mess?

The current list maintainer is Hung Le (hle@pacbell.net). For more information, point your browser to: http://www.saigon.com/~singles/mcorner.html

The good folks of Net Images, Inc. provide the computer resources.

Is there a home page for vn-singles?

Yes, the URL is http://www.saigon.com/~singles/

Can you add a link to my home page?

Sure can. Send email to the current list maintainer, Hung Le (hle@pacbell.net). The link to your home page will be placed in http://www.saigon.com/~singles/faces.html

Can I add a link from my home page to your home page?

Yes. Feel free to add http://www.saigon.com/~singles/ to your page. However, I need to add a disclaimer on this: the contents of your page is your business. The fact that there is a link to us does NOT imply that we are endorsing you or the content of your page.

Is there a VN-Singles chat-line?

Sure, the vn-singles chatroom is http://www.saigon.com/ChatRoom/.

Here is a the list of known problems with the "ChatRoom":

  1. In the login screen, you cannot use the tab key to move between text entry field. (971020)
  2. The whole "Help" menu is not fully working. No available docs. (971021)

Is there a digest format for the mailing list?

No. There is no plan to implement a digest format.

Is there a archives for old mails from the mailing-list?

Unfortunately no. Currently, I manually collect topics that are "interesting" and I will make them available on the vn-singles web site.

Can I make a suggestion?

Definitely! Your comments and suggestions are welcome. Please send them to the current list maintainer Hung Le (hle@pacbell.net).

Are most of the postings in English or Vietnamese?

It is a even-split between English and Vietnamese. Most poems are in Vietnamese and most joke are in English. Hmmm .. that is interesting now that I think about it. Any linguist want to tackles that one?

How can I filter email from vn-singles?

Mails from vn-singles has the following string in the subject line:

[vn-singles]
For example:
[vn-singles] [Fun] CON GAI' va` Con Trai

Who's subscribed to vn-singles mailing list?

To get a list of the addresses on vn-singles list, use the "who" command, followed by the name of the list which is "vn-singles".

  1. Send mail to majordomo@saigon.com.
  2. in the body of your message type:
    who vn-singles
    

    as an example:

    To: majordomo@saigon.com
    Subject: who
    
    who vn-singles
    
Important: Wake up. I am going to say something very important so do pay attention ;-). Please, pretty please send your email with the "who" command to majordomo@saigon.com NOT repeat NOT vn-singles@saigon.com.

What are other useful FAQs?

What is the current size limit for message sent to vn-singles mailing list?

The biggest message size allowed is 88K.

Does anyone have the lyrics for xyz song?

If it appears that no one knows the lyrics of xyz song, you might want to try your luck at the "viet-nhac" mailing list: To subscribe send mail to majordomo@freeviet.org. In the body of your message type:

subscribe viet-nhac your-email-address

as an example:

To: majordomo@freeviet.org
Subject: subscribe

subscribe viet-nhac lily@flower.com

Do you have a place for "personal ads"?

We are somewhat ambivalent about providing such service. Until we can make up our mind ;-), here are some of the alternatives. BTW, vn-singles is not responsible for the contents of homepages outside www.saigon.com/~singles.

  1. If you have a home page, we can add a link to your page. See question "Can you add a link to my home page?" in this FAQ.
  2. TVNet -- the home page of the Vietnamese community in Toronto, Canada's provides spaces for personal ads
  3. VietLine -- Friendz Club provides 1-year free (I think) membership listing.
  4. KICON -- provides free listing for personal home page.
  5. IMVN FRIENDSHIP INTERNATIONAL NETWORK

Where is the result of the vn-singles survey?

You will find it at: http://www.saigon.com/~singles/survey_result.htm

25 Snappy Comebacks to the age old question "Why aren't you married yet?"

These comebacks are good but they don't work too well on Vietnamese relatives ;-). So if you have a good snappy Vietnamese comeback, send it to hle@pacbell.net. I will make it available on this FAQ.
1. You haven't asked yet.
2. I was hoping to do something meaningful with my life.
3. What?  And spoil my great sex life?
4. Nobody would believe me in white.
5. Because I just love hearing this question.
6. Just lucky, I guess.
7. It gives my mother something to live for.
8. My fiancee is awaiting his/her parole.
9. I'm still hoping for a shot at Miss/Mr. America.
10. Do you know how hard it is to get two tickets to Miss Saigon?
11. I'm waiting until I get to be your age.
12. It didn't seem worth a blood test.
13. I already have enough laundry to do, thank you.
14. Because I think it would take all the spontaneity out of dating.
15. My co-op board doesn't allow spouses.
16. I'd have to forfeit my billion dollar trust fund.
17. They just opened a great singles bar on my block.
18. I wouldn't want my parents to drop dead from sheer happiness.
19. I guess it just goes to prove that you can't trust those voodoo doll
    rituals.
20. What?  And lose all the money I've invested in running personal ads?
21. We really want to, but my lover's spouse just won't go for it.
22. I don't want to have to support another person on my paycheck.
23. Why aren't you thin?
24. I'm married to my career, although recently we have been considering
    a trial separation.
25. (Bonus reply for Single Mothers) Because having a husband and a child
    would be redundant.

I just receive a Virus warning. Should I forward it to vn-singles?

Before sending such email to vn-singles, please be sure to check the following URL's:

to see if that email is just another Internet hoax.

I just receive an email urging me to forward it to all my friend. Should I forward it to vn-singles?

Before sending such email to vn-singles, please be sure to check the following URL's:

to see if that email is just another Internet chain letter.

Can I subscribe VN-Single directly from news server instead for thru email?

The vn-singles list is available on USENET as newsgroup: vietnet.vn.singles. It is not a "standard" newsgroup therefore your news server might not carry it. An alternative is to read it via the web using http://www.dejanews.com server.


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